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Jadeitedrake0, As to your summary of my beliefs, you still seem to be viewing this issue from the perspective of post-resurrection/glorification, and I must reiterate that I am attempting to refute a statement you made about the pre-resurrection, but post-death, state of the material component of your person, ie your body, and not attempting to draw any conclusion about the details about how God accomplishes the resurrection. Look what happens if I apply your statements: WHEN I DIE THAT CARCASE IS NOT ME ANYMORE ... Sure, a corpse was a body at one time and thus, untill it completely decays, it will have some identity of what my body is. This identity posesses absolutely no importance conserning my body; that corpse is not my body. to the following passage: Joseph ... went in to Pilate and asked for
the body of Jesus.
44 Pilate marveled that He was already dead; and summoning the centurion, he asked him if He had been dead for some time. 45 So when he found out from the centurion, he granted
the body
to Joseph. 46 Then he bought fine linen, took
Him
down, and wrapped
Him
in the linen. And he laid
Him
in a tomb which had been hewn out of the rock, and rolled a stone against the door of the tomb. 47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses observed where
He
was laid. (Mark 15:43-47 NKJV) According to your logic, Mark should have written: Joseph ... went in to Pilate and asked for
the body of Jesus (which was neither Jesus nor His body anymore).
44 Pilate marveled that He was already dead; and summoning the centurion, he asked him if He had been dead for some time. 45 So when he found out from the centurion, he granted
the body (which was neither Jesus nor His body anymore)
to Joseph. 46 Then he bought fine linen, took
that which was neither Jesus nor His body anymore
down, and wrapped
that which was neither Jesus nor His body anymore
in the linen. And he laid
that which was neither Jesus nor His body anymore
in a tomb which had been hewn out of the rock, and rolled a stone against the door of the tomb. 47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses observed where
that which was neither Jesus nor His body anymore
was laid. (Mark 15:43-47 NKJV) Would that change in wording and concept make any substantial difference to the faith once delivered to the saints?
In Christ, Paul S
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