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delvanis said:
When our Lord was speaking of choosing his disciples, he was speaking of choosing men to follow him as apostles and not for personal salvation. If choosing one for the office of being an apostle would have meant the same as salvation, then none would have rejected him. But we know that Judas who also was chosen, in the end rejected Christ and so lost his apostolic office and salvation as well.

Wes pointed you to Eph. 1:

He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him In love He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He freely bestowed on us in the Beloved (vv. 4–6).

Now, to whom was the Apostle writing, and to what does God's choice and predestination refer? The Apostle was writing to saints; these saints were chosen by God from the mass of sinful humanity (cf. Eph. 2) to be made holy and blameless, and they were predestined by God to be adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ—all this before the world had even been created! This is all about salvation!

Last edited by CovenantInBlood; Thu Sep 15, 2005 12:40 PM.

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