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Pilgrim said: Those of us who are want to defend Calvin against this charge, although there is at least one individual on this Board who would refuse to read any such defense for whatever lame reason, are NOT implying that John Calvin was sinless

In His grace,

Easy there honcho. You can mention my name.. IT IS JOE K!!! And you know this is not what I said nor meant. Defend him all you want, read the volumns that do so also. HAs it ever changed one person? It is like decisional regeneration.

Perhaps we should practice more of decreasing while He must increase. And also follow Christ's example of humility when charged and killed. So my reasonings are not lame HH, there are scriptural.

Even if Calvin was instrumental is the death of servatus, this only confirms he was a sinner. Saved by Grace.

You do need help learning how to be more subtle pilgrim!!!!

Joe K <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bigglasses.gif" alt="" />

There never was a sinner half as big as Christ is as a Savior.