Hi Again:

Thanks for the e-mail Pilgrim ;-). I'll try to be more faithful to the Board.

Anyway, I must admit that I have been guilty of using the term "permissive will." But I think Pilgrim has a good point about the dangers of using that term. I have also seen/heard the term "preceptive will" used in lieu of "prescriptive will."

We all know that people violate God's commands and sin, gibberish tongues are in the visible church, women elders, etc. But we also know that 1Co 11:19 says: "For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you."

So amen on the prescriptive/preceptive will being violated yet still accomplishing God's sovereign, eternal, decretive will.

Good to be back. Thank you for your lieniency Pilgrim.

Brother Bret

Brother Bret Lovitz