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Sorry, Pete. I feel as though I missed something here. I did not mean my response to be a put down to you in any way! I was responding to the quote from Tiessen. I hope I haven't offended you. It was certainly never my intention.

Oh, for the love of Mike... Kim I beg your pardon. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bow.gif" alt="" /> I'm sorry that you misconstrued my statement as taking offense from you. On the contrary, I am just an over educate oaf. But I appreciate a fellow laypersons view. Unlike our dear friends Joe, Laz, Pilgrim, and the rest I've never taken formal classes in hermenuetics, exegesis, or systematic theology. Everything I've learned I've either taught myself from books or from conversations I've had with people like you, Joe, Laz, Pilgrim and others. I am here to learn please continue to teach me.

Peter

If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo