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AJC said: Hi Pilgrim,
If ones dies soon after initial regeneration in which santification in the life never really gets off the ground where does that leave the sinner because the RCC believes there is still much work to be done in the life of the sinner before one can enter heaven and that's where they make the case for purgatory...
I'm also relating this to 1Cor3 - Catholics use this to promote Purgatory while Reformed view this as alluding to our rewards in heaven, right? So to clarify this further AJC, you are asking if the person in question is regenerated by the Holy Spirit but never, converted? Or are you asking if the person is regenerated and converted but isn't sanctified? Please remember that the ordo salutis (order of salvation) is this: In the Reformed camp, the ordo salutis is 1) election, 2) predestination, 3) gospel call 4) inward call 5) regeneration, 6) conversion (faith & repentance), 7) justification,8) sanctification, and 9) glorification. (Rom 8:29-30) And btw AJC regeneration doesn't occur unless conversion also occurs. God wouldn't regenerate a person who wouldn't be converted.
Peter
If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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