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xyz, Several times you have gone out of your way to point out that John was not looking for a single, that is unique, person not requiring repentance: In response to Wes saying:John was reluctant to baptize Jesus because he recognized that Jesus was the person who had no need for repentance. you replied:He recognized that Jesus was a person who had no need for repentance. In response to my asking:Are you saying ... John went beyond his office in commanding his hearers to be baptised? you replied: Only when he thought they needed to repent, and intended to repent. In response to my saying:apart from the single unique case of Jesus Christ you replied:How is it known that this case was unique? I have no clear idea what is motivating you to not believe that John was expecting one, and one only, person to arise would be found not in need of repentance, but the Scriptures very cleary testify against you that he was: For this is he who was spoken of by the prophet Isaiah when he said, "The voice of one crying in the wilderness: 'Prepare the way of the Lord*; make his* paths straight.'" :: "I baptize you with water for repentance, but he* who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose* sandals I am not worthy to carry. He* will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His* winnowing fork is in his hand, and he* will clear his* threshing floor and gather his* wheat into the barn, but the chaff he* will burn with unquenchable fire." (Matthew 3:3,11-12 ESV)
* the Lord/he/his/whose--all referring to a singular, ie unique, person (I know you are sensitive to the usage of pronouns and the like) **************************** As it is written in Isaiah the prophet,
"Behold, I send my messenger before your* face, who will prepare your* way, the voice of one crying in the wilderness: 'Prepare the way of the Lord*, make his* paths straight,'" :: And he preached, saying, "After me comes he* who is mightier than I, the strap of whose* sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie. I have baptized you with water, but he* will baptize you with the Holy Spirit." (Mark 1:2-3,7-8 ESV)
* your/ the Lord/ his/he--all referring to a singular, ie unique, person **************************** And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Most High; for you will go before the Lord* to prepare his* ways :: John answered them all, saying, "I baptize you with water, but he* who is* mightier than I is* coming, the strap of whose* sandals I am not worthy to untie. He* will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. His* winnowing fork is in his hand, to clear his* threshing floor and to gather the wheat into his* barn, but the chaff he* will burn with unquenchable fire." (Luke 1:76, 3:16-17, ESV)
* the Lord/ his/he/is/whose--all referring to a singular, ie unique, person ******************************** He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light*, that all might believe through him*. He was not the light, but came to bear witness about the light*. :: ( John bore witness about him*, and cried out, "This* was* he* of whom* I said, 'He* who comes after me ranks* before me, because he* was* before me.'") :: He said, "I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way of the Lord,'* as the prophet Isaiah said." :: John answered them, "I baptize with water, but among you stands* one* you do not know, even he* who comes* after me, the strap of whose* sandal I am not worthy to untie." :: The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God*, who* takes* away the sin of the world! This is he* of whom* I said, 'After me comes a man* who ranks* before me, because he* was* before me.' I myself did not know him*, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he* might be revealed to Israel." And John bore witness: "I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him*. I myself did not know him*, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, 'He* on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this* is* he* who* baptizes* with the Holy Spirit.' And I have seen and have borne witness that this* is* the Son of God*." The next day again John was standing with two of his disciples, and he looked at Jesus as he walked by and said, "Behold, the Lamb of God!"* (John 1:7-8,15,23,26-27,29-36 ESV)
* the light/him/this/was/he/whom/ranks/the Lord/stands/one/comes/whose/the Lamb of God/who/ takes/a man/is/baptizes/the Son of God--all referring to a singular, ie unique, person
In Christ, Paul S
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