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Pilgrim said:
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DanielRitchie said:
Thanks for the welcome; my reading of Romans 9 would suggest option 1 is correct. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />
Okay, so it would at least appear you hold to the supralapsarian view. Fine! Is there any particular reason you asked the question? Historically, the majority view has been Infralapsarian but those holding to Supralapsarianism were not excluded, shoved to the fringes, etc. However, there have been some individuals and groups/denominations who have taken their supra view to extremes which effected other doctrines in such a way that it did result in strong opposition, schism and splits, usually instigated by the supras.

Just in case you haven't read Bavinck on the subject, you can do so here:

- Suprlapsarianism and Infralapsarianism

- Controversy in regard to Infra- and Supralapsarianism

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Thanks again for your help; I don't know enough about the whole infra-supra debate to say too much, but from reading Robert Reymond I thought supra was stronger. The reason I ask this question is I am going to preach on Romans 9.

However, I am aware (as you say) of others taking this to extremes; but I still maintain the free/well meant offer of the gospel is Biblical. Though this is not something that can be reconciled with human reason, imho. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bash.gif" alt="" />

Daniel Ritchie
Dromara Reformed Presbyterian Church of Ireland
Saintfield, Northern Ireland