Originally Posted by Pilgrim
savedbygrace97,
Nice to see you back. grin

Thanks Jeff, nice to be back. grin

First, I would like to point out that both chestnutmare and Pilgrim called me on not actually reading John Murray's letter concerning head coverings in the Church. So I have now done so.

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Professor Murray says: Since Paul appeals to the order of creation (vss. 3b, vss. 7ff.), it is totally indefensible to suppose that what is in view and enjoined had only local or temporary relevance. The ordinance of creation is universally and perpetually applicable, as also are the implications for conduct arising therefrom.

I have to say that I don't agree with Murray.

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You are all people of God through faith in Christ Jesus, for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Galatians 3:26-29

First I would like to say that this isn't a matter of Justification. If the focus here ever turns towards justification, then this would absolutely be legalistic. For we are all saved by grace and only through the pure righteousness of Jesus Christ and not by any works of our own.

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18Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. 19Husbands, love your wives and do not be harsh with them. 20Children, obey your parents in everything, for this pleases the Lord. 21Fathers, do not embitter your children, or they will become discouraged. 22Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. 23Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men. - Colossians 3: 18-23

God is truly a God of Law and Order. I do believe that there should be authority within the people of God.

I do believe that when women are truly convicted by the Word of God they will start to want to obey it, meaning that they will start to desire to want to submit to the authority of men and especially their own husbands and their fathers.

I'm not disputing this.

But I believe that head coverings was a symbol to represent authority during the first century. Therefore, it was proper at that time, to demonstrate a willingness by women to submit to men in the area of sanctification or in growing closer to the likeness of Christ.

Just like Baptism and Communion is the symbol of our commitment to Jesus Christ.

But in our culture today, head coverings isn't a symbol of authority any more.

My point is that it's what is going on inside our hearts that is what is important and not what is outwardly displayed.

Everyone can act like a good Christian... I know this because I see it almost everyday. But whether they truly love Christ and each other is an entirely different story.

Whether a women wears something on her head or wears her hair long doesn't mean that she truly desires to submit to her husband or father or to the male elders in her Church. Only God knows her heart.

Dave

Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. - Galatians 2:16