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I went to a "Messianic Seder" years ago as a means to learn exactly how the Seder pictured the work of Christ, and it was absolutely striking in it's detail; from the breaking of the middle of three loaves (if one lets the loaves represent the members of the Trinity, the middle one being the Son, broken for us) to the way unleavened bread forms stripes when it is pierced and baked. Would one not have to admit that imposing such meanings as the three loaves representing the Trinity is boarding upon idolatry; a violation of the Second Commandment? Is there any biblical support that three loaves are to be understood in this way? Personally, this and similar "meanings" given to objects not explicitly designated in Scripture are contrived without biblical warrant. As an educational demonstration of how the Seder represented the Lamb of God's work on the cross, it's wonderful! Observed as a sacrament, however, I would definitely have issues. The first Lord's Supper was a Seder meal, but as a sacramental means of grace, it must be observed in remembrance of Christ; whereas the Seder looked forward with faith to Christ. 1. Educational it might be IF one is simply curious to see how some Jews, of any variety including Messianic Jews, celebrate a Seder. But it certainly cannot be educational if the knowledge gained, whatever that might be, is used as a means to the worship of God, whether personal or public. Reformed doctrine holds to the "Regulative Principle [of worship]" which as its basic principle states that nothing is to be done in the worship of God unless it is expressly commanded by God or implied by example. 2. Yes, the Lord's Supper supersedes the Seder, which is part of the OT covenant administration, and thus is a "shadow/type" pointing forward to that which was fulfilled in Christ. Thus, even from a practical perspective, why would a Christian choose to practice something which has been abrogated by that which is far richer in its expression of Christ's atoning sacrifice? This applies to ALL of the OT festivals, etc., (cf. Col 2). The new covenant sacraments; baptism and the Lord's Supper have a new universality (Jew & Gentile) and a new spirituality (presence and indwelling of the Spirit).
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