Originally Posted by Cameron
I've heard the arguement before that if it's a sign then it must absolutely exist.

1. As a CB I would disagree for the same reason that communion is a sign, is only allowed for believers, yet some may be decieved when they partake. The same can apply to baptism as a new covenant sign. The aposltes in Acts are only and always baptizing those who believe, thus we can, even if we baptize one who later walks away from the faith since Scripture does teach that our faith can be in vain. Bottom line is we use the sign the best we can.
Just so you know, I am NOT going to get into yet another debate over baptism. I'm far too educated on the subject and now in my old age far too wise to even bother. wink

Baptism and the Lord's Table are two entirely different sacraments and thus your analogy falls on its face. And trust me, you didn't really comprehend what I wrote given your reply. [Linked Image]

Originally Posted by Cameron
2. Even the PB has this same problem because even when you baptize an adult you don't know for certain if he's an apostate or not. The problem goes both ways.

Those are two major reasons I don't see that as a very good argument.
nope As I noted above, you don't get it.... ! rolleyes2 PBs don't define baptism based upon a subjective criteria but rather an objective criteria. Thus "this same problem" is totally irrelevant and your argument is mute.

The majority of members here are Credo Baptists and we get along just dandy. IF <--- (notice the IF?) you want to push this subject which will doubtless cause an unwanted reaction from both sides here, you may find yourself standing alone. Most of us are quite aware of our differences and most have resolved to not make it a matter of breaking fellowship. I respect that mutuality among us, even treasure it and will not allow it to be jeopardized... if you catch my drift, Snowbank? grin

So, just keep on baptizing adults and I'll keep on baptizing adults and their children and encouraging them to impress upon them that they need to get right with God through a Spirit-wrought repentance and Spirit-wrought faith in the Lord Christ resulting in living a life of holiness to the glory of God. BigThumbUp

Peace!


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