Sorry to dredge up such an old thread. I was going to post a question about the timing of the creation of the angels, and before doing so, I did a search on the forum. This was the only relevant thread in the substantial results list, but it asked the same question. Please let me know, for future reference, whether the members of this board would prefer starting a new thread, as opposed to bumping such an old one.

Okay, so the question of when the angels were created, has been answered here. And, my long-held beliefs coincide. A couple of references (NKJ):

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Ex.20 11 "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them."
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Neh.9 6 "You alone are the Lord;
You have made heaven,
The heaven of heavens, with all their host,
The earth and everything on it,
The seas and all that is in them,
And You preserve them all.
The host of heaven worships You."
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Job38 4-7 "“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?”"
If the "sons of God" in Job are taken to be angels (some believe otherwise), then the angels were already in existence when the earth was created. But according to Ex.20, they were created during the six-day creation. Therefore, on Day One.

Some may object that this doesn't leave very much time for Lucifer's fall, coming, as it must, before Adam's fall. But as Pilgrim said, it also did not take Adam long to fall!

[As an interesting aside, I read a comment about why Lucifer fell, to the effect that the covering cherub was the head angel, above all the other angels. But when man was created, he (the man) had direct fellowship with God, without Lucifer being involved, and this may have led to Lucifer's jealousy.]

Now a question: does anyone know of any reason why the idea of angels being created during the six-day creation (rather than a long time before that) would present any difficulty for dispensationalists?


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