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The quote from Sproul is incomplete and by leaving out the next few sentences of his introductory comments, it fails to give the whole truth concerning God. God is most certainly "authoritative", i.e., He has the warrant, the right, the authority to govern all things. But IF that was the whole of it, then it would and does beg the question which sets the biblical God and biblical doctrine of God's sovereignty apart from all other belief systems which men fabricate in their infant and depraved minds, aka: idolatry. Here is the rest of Sproul's comments which includes that which is most important: Nothing escapes God’s notice; nothing oversteps the boundaries of His power. God is authoritative in all things. If I thought even for one moment that a single molecule were running loose in the universe outside the control and domain of almighty God, I wouldn’t sleep tonight. My confidence in the future rests in my confidence in the God who controls history. But how does God exercise that control and manifest that authority? How does God bring to pass the things He sovereignly decrees?
Augustine said that nothing happens in this universe apart from the will of God and that, in a certain sense, God ordains everything that happens. Augustine was not attempting to absolve men of responsibility for their actions, but his teaching raises a question: If God is sovereign over the actions and intents of men, why pray at all? Yes, 1) God rules over all things (providence), AND 2) God ordains all that He governs by His providence (sovereignty). It is NOT the case as is believed and taught in the majority of professing Christian churches, that God's power and foreknowledge (prescience, i.e., knowledge before all things actually happen) allow Him to prepare to act when the things He allegedly saw beforehand do happen.  This is akin to the story of the little Dutch boy who tried to stop the leaks in a dike by sticking his fingers in the holes. The God of the Bible is not to be compared to a thermometer which simply records what the existing temperature is. The true living God is more like a thermostat which determines and then controls the temperature. God cannot know that which He hasn't ordained. NOTHING can exist or happen which God hasn't ordained. There is no "future" into which God must peer in order to gain knowledge, regardless whether one insists that God is "outside of time" as a rebuttal of this truth. Isaiah 46:9-10 (ASV) "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; [I am] God, and there is none like me; declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not [yet] done; saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure;" (cf. Isa Isa 41:22; 43:24; 44:7; 45:21; Ps 33:11; 135:6; Pr 19:21; 21:30; Da 4:35; Acts 4:27,28; Rom 11:33-34; Eph 1:9-11; Heb 6:17, et al).
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