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Historic Calvinism has always affirmed that the MORAL law of God is perpetual and binding upon ALL MEN. The disagreement, as you surely know is if God has determined that governments are to be formed by believers only and/or are to be established upon God's moral and OT civil law ONLY? But most pressing is if the civil law established for the nation of Israel in the OT is perpetual and thus to be exacted upon all societies and by whom? Let's take your list and have you answer that question, shall we? Are we free to have other idols to worship? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? Are we free to take the Lord's name in vain? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? Are we free to not observe the sabbath? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? Are we free to dishonor our parents? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? Are we free to murder others? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? Are we free to lay with our neighbor's spouse? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? Are we free to steal from others? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? Are we free to lie? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? Are we free to covet our neighbor's spouse or his belongings? Are those who violate this law to be executed by stoning? If you are convinced that the biblical answer to all or even any of the above questions is "Yes!", then please tell me who would be left on earth? Would the last man then commit suicide to fulfill this requirement?  The ONLY law that include capital punishment and which is perpetual and universal is #5; murder, which is a creation ordinance (Gen 9:6, et al). The truth is that GOD is the one who will exact capital punishment upon all lawbreakers, and even that punishment isn't "death" (non-existence), but eternal death/punishment. This includes the elect who are not declared, "No Guilty" but rather "GUILTY!! as charged and their punishment was exacted upon them on Calvary through the vicarious substitutionary atonement of the Lord Christ. For they too are constantly guilty of breaking all of God's holy law day in and day out and are worthy of judgement throughout their days on earth. Paul was not sentenced to stoning, for by his own confession he broke the law of God constantly: Romans 7:14-25; 8:1,2) (ASV) 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I know not: for not what I would, that do I practise; but what I hate, that I do. 16 But if what I would not, that I do, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 So now it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me, that is, in my flesh, dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me, but to do that which is good [is] not. 19 For the good which I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I practise. 20 But if what I would not, that I do, it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwelleth in me. 21 I find then the law, that, to me who would do good, evil is present. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me out of the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then I of myself with the mind, indeed, serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus made me free from the law of sin and of death.
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