<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"] So then are we still born dead in our sin? Or are we not made alive in Christ until the Spirit works say twenty years down the road?</font><hr></blockquote><p><blockquote>Ephesians 2:1-8 (ASV) "And you [did he make alive,] when ye were dead through your trespasses and sins, wherein ye once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the powers of the air, of the spirit that now worketh in the sons of disobedience; among whom we also all once lived in the lust of our flesh, doing the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest:-- but God, being rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace have ye been saved), and raised us up with him, and made us to sit with him in the heavenly [places], in Christ Jesus: that in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus: for by grace have ye been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, [it is] the gift of God;"</blockquote>A sinner is regenerated by the sovereign work of the Holy Spirit generally in conjunction with the hearing/reading of the Word of God (Gospel); cf. Rom 1:16; 10:17, et al.<br><br>In His Grace,


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