<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]"a pile of dung" as Luther said</font><hr></blockquote><p> If you don't mind when you are quoting Luther or the other Reformation writers I would appreciate it if you would use references. <br><br>As to man's supposed longing to be made whole, forgiven, and to love God have you never read:<br><br>The wicked go astray from the womb. They are wayward as soon as they are born, speaking lies. (Ps 58:3)<br><br>Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity. In sin my mother conceived me. (Ps 51:5)<br><br>You were made alive when you were dead in transgressions and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the powers of the air, the spirit who now works in the children of disobedience; among whom we also all once lived in the lust of our flesh, doing the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest. (Eph 2:1-3)<br><br>For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we will be saved by his life. (Ro 5:10)<br><br>Now the natural man doesn't receive the things of God's Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can't know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1Co 2:14)<br><br>because the mind of the flesh is hostile towards God; for it is not subject to God's law, neither indeed can it be. (Ro 8:7)<br>(emphasis mine)<br><br>Please Hannah show me again where it says that unregenerate people desire to be made whole, to be forgiven, or to love God?<br>
