The Highway Forums General Discussion Open Forum Voice of His Word - PC Game

Paul,


Yes. But another question is will the person look for the Heavenly treasures which God speaks about in the Bible. Like you know people have many gods but no one knows the Father except the Son and he who Son reveals Him. (Psa 73:9)
The reason I mention this is because we may have not fully understood each other, I hope I was able to clear this out? I know that no one can't find God if God doesnt allow and that He encourages to search for Him. (Psa 27:8)


Yes I think a good lesson could be made from that. Are you referring to the breaking of the law when you mention curse? That is another important teaching and it is related to the fact that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, isn't it?


The game doesnt simply do that, it doesnt evaluate player's heart as it cannot, only God can. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

However an example of an right choise and the rewards could be as follows: A woman dropped a coin in the ground and cannot find it. She needs it very much for food. If player finds the coin he has two options, either give the coin to the woman or keep it. Now we dont have to tell the player that its wrong to keep the coin and let the woman to starve but what we do is that if the player returns the coin to the woman, she thanks him and that's it for now but later some other person (also combuter controlled like the woman) comes to talk the player saying "I heard you helped my wife while I was away and now I want to reward you".
This is a symbolic repsentation of the blessing of rightneusness which Israel gained when they followed God and the message is: do good and you will be rewarded.
I dont feel like this is the best way to teach in the game but it is a one way. What do you think?

I dont want to say that God would bless something for sure nor judge but the idea is based in the fact God blesses those who keep His commandments which I can rely on and say it now because He is also loyal.

I hope my english was good enough in there and I'll just add that the idea is not to make any step by step guides or "judgin system" but to represent Jesus' teachings in real life situations. For example player may have change to exalt himself at some point by braggin about his skills or popularity and then be abased.

Thank you for your questions you really make me think and please dont jump in to any quick conslusions if I have failed to express my views.
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Jari.

Paul,

It isn't just this game that concerns me in regard to making clear and biblical sound statements but my concern pervades all those who are desirous to proclaim what they think is the Gospel. First and foremost, God is dishonored when untruth is communicated about anything which He has revealed as truth. And secondly, those who are unfortunate as to hear those untruths are in most cases further hardened if they are unbelievers or led off the "path of righteousness" should they be true believers.

One of the MOST common errors held or wrongly communicated by professing Christians today, which I think has always been the case, is the spiritual state of the unbeliever. It is NOT that if one does something "right" they are blessed. Nor, is it if one does not "continue to do right they are actually under a curse". But rather God has revealed that ALL are born under a curse and are under His wrath and liable to judgment UNLESS God Himself intervenes and breathes new life into a sinner's dead soul. Otherwise, "there is NONE who do good, no not one . . . NONE seek after God . . ." The natural man is at enmity with God and it is only God's benevolence that any are given the time they have on earth to take in one single breath of air.

In short, the biblical teaching concerning man's natural state is most often totally ignored or openly rejected or substituted with a "softer, kinder, gentler" untruth thinking that it will be more palatable and even appealing to the world of unbelievers and thus many will "believe on Jesus" (which is another term that is woefully misunderstood and prostituted in order to produce numbers). All men everywhere are commanded to "seek God", even though they are totally incapable of even inclining themselves to take even a passing interest in seeking God. And yet, they are responsible to do so.

I am forever reminded of J.I. Packer's incredible section within his "Introductory Essay to John Owen's 'Death of Death in the Death of Christ'" which can be read online here: The Old Gospel and the New. May God be pleased to bring the Church back to preaching the REAL GOSPEL that saves through the power of the Holy Spirit. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

In His grace,

One of the things that I thought about while reading what you wrote, is the fact that there are many non Christians who in the eyes of the world are very good people.
In other words, these kinds of people will probably make the right choice when given your example of the women who dropped the coin. However, this in no way makes the person any closer to God.
Your example only works in the case of people who are already saved. It that case, as indicated in the book of James, it shows the persons faith at work.

As I indicated in my other post, it might be a good idea if you can somehow use a catechism such as is found here in your game.
Why try to reinvent the wheel?

Tom

Hi Tom,


That is a good point.

It's a real challenge that believers, non-believers and false-believers will all play this game, what I am really exited about however is that in the game the questions,lessons and everything represented to the player can be determinted by the choises player makes. For example player can preach the Gospel of Christ to the combuter controlled humans by selecting predefined speech options and thefore learn new things about Gospel him self, but if player chooses not to preach the Gospel the combuter human will preach the Gospel to the player. See how that would work? A Christian player would choose to preach while non-believer would not preach but be preached to and both learn in an interactive way.



This is great assuming that the catechism has good/right answers and I will definetely look answers from it.

God bless you.

That is why I included the link, it definately has "good/right" answers.

Tom

CJan,

Rapture Ready is a dispensational Arminian website. The Highway is a non-dispensational Calvinist website. You can read about the differences here.

Thank you for the link Tom, I have read it and I now understand why you wonder why I have linked to both sites. Well I don't see anything bad in that as I don't favor either one of these views (unlike the author seems to favor calvinism) but merely consider parts from both of them to be true.

I personally believe we do have a free will yet my salvation is in no way in my own hands or my own effort for Jesus has won my heart and I am merely signing my name to an offer which is too good to be refused and God has always known this.

Jari.

Jari,

Aside from the fact that this is going off-topic, may I suggest that your views are definitely contradictory. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> IF you have a free-will, then your salvation is totally dependent upon its excercise. IF salvation is the determination and result of a sovereign God, then there is no place for an alleged "free-will".

Here are a few articles I would recommend you spend time reading:

1) Myth of Free-Will by Walter Chantry

2) God's Sovereignty and the Human Will by A.W. Pink

3) There Are Only Two Religions in the Whole World by John Reisinger

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In His grace,

I know. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> But it all matter of how you look at it. Well it's hard to explain my view so I better not try to explain since I dont want to go off topic either.

Thanks for the links, I was just looking for something to read!

I just wanted to say that after reading the first article I realized that I had misunderstood what was meant by "free will" and that another thing was "will". However I agree 95% with the article. Just saying this so that you wouldn't worry too much. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/giggle.gif" alt="" /> Thanks.... I'll not worry too much then. Now, let's move back to the topic at hand if so desired. And I would appreciate it if you would answer the following question by starting a new thread in the "Theology Forum". You said you agreed with "95%" of what Chantry wrote in his article, "Myth of Free Will". I'm curious to know what that 5% was that you did not agree with. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

And in regard to your other response where you said you were looking for something to read, do you realize that there are over 1100 books, articles, sermons, etc., on The Highway website? Just browse around through the various sections and you will find LOTS of great material to read. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/BigThumbUp.gif" alt="" />

Lastly, and FYI, on this Board you can "Edit" a post or reply up to 6 hours after it was posted, thus making it unnecessary to post another message/reply in the event you need to make a correction, add more to it, etc.

In His grace,

Ok I'll see if I have time to post about the 5% tomorrow but if not I still definetely want to talk about it.

And yes I know there are lot of articles, you just saved me from picking one randomly...

And about the reply thing, thanks, I know I was just concerned that you might not notice if I only edit the post but I see how it goes. Thanks!

Hi again,
I am planning to put teachings in the game and I wanted to show you a few lesson topics wich I wrote this morning.
Please take a look and help me to make the teachings correct and tell me what you think.


The plan is to make game quests and lessons from those basics.

In Christ,
Jari.