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Anthony C. #59131 Fri Oct 04, 2024 2:07 PM
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I am curious why you believe this has anything to do with Rebel News and the News agencies Pilgrim mentioned?

I have seen actual proof that Rebel News, is being persecuted for reporting the News as it really is.
They are not necessarily “pro-Israel”. Rather, they are reporting what is happening with the anti-Israel protests. These protests are not just peaceful either.
Then, when others who are concerned protest against them. They are arrested and charged with hate crimes.
In other words, anti-Semitism is allowed, but speaking against the pro-Hamas protesters will not be tolerated.

Let me state clearly. Jewish communities in Canada are really scared and if something is not done about it. Do not be surprised if they don’t take matters into their own hands. These are Canadian Jews, not Jews in Israel.
I can’t help but think of the video Pilgrim posted.

News is not biased, one way or another.

To give you an idea, about Rebel News doing their job. Let me give you an example.
I don’t remember the issue. However, they were interviewing someone supposedly who seemed to be against Trudeau.
After, the interview regardless of the fact Trudeau is hostile towards them. The reporter, took a moment to say that in the interest of fair journalism. They believe the person gave false information and they are not interested in giving false information regardless of who they are.

I gained more respect for them after that.

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I think Rebel News probably ultimately serves the agenda. What good are they accomplishing? What good do any of the funded, half-truthers and outrage-porn disseminators do? Soon we are onto the next outrage…. Covid, lgbt, etc… it never ends.

Independent researches were exposing things years ago that Tucker is just “revealing” now.

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They do good for those like myself who like unbiased news.
They could have quit the fight a long time ago. Yet, they believe it is worth it to press on.

For that matter, if I took the attitude you seem to be conveying. I better just keep my mouth shut, as society keeps getting more and more Woke. I have lost friends in the last few years, because they found out I disagree with CRT.
One of them is a native friend I had for over 30 years. He is a professing Christian; yet because CRT seems to most natives to have the answers to their problems. They believe people who disagree with CRT are the problem.
In fact, they even said I am showing my “white privilege” and am afraid to lose it.

There is an old saying that I don’t know the author is.
All that needs to happen for tyrants to win, is for good men to remain silent.

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Carlson told Carolla: “In 2008, it was pretty evident that Obama had relationships with men and had used crack. Larry Sinclair came forward, willing to sign an affidavit and take a lie detector test, claiming, ‘I smoked crack and had sexual relations with Barack Obama.’ It was obviously true.”

Major media’s reluctance to cover the story wasn’t due to any prudishness about sex or drug use, but because the Obama campaign threatened to revoke access for any outlet that reported on it, Carlson said. “So, no one touched the story.”

So what good is our free press? Selective reporting and playing the victim or merely peddling outrage. We are either the tribe or the victim but what good is accomplished?

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That is a defeatist attitude.
Over the years although thing like you mentioned; are heartbreaking. Never the less; there are other situation where truth won.

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You don’t need Rebel News to fight for you. This stuff is not surprising - it’s all about divide and conquer. CRT is helping to usher in new-world government. So you are more aware of it… now what? Lies will abound. What is the plan to get the world back on track? Is Rebel News going to tell you what you should do or just give you another thing to be outraged over?

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I can only control what I can control.

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That is not the job of Rebel News. Their job is to report the News factual.
We as believers must fight with the weapons God gives us in his Word.

Tom

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Let me add here something a friend sent me.

“Here are several notable insurrections throughout history where weapons were either not used or played a minimal role:

1. The Salt March (1930, India)
Leader: Mahatma Gandhi
Goal: Protesting British salt tax.
Non-violent nature: Gandhi’s movement was explicitly non-violent, using civil disobedience and marches to make a statement against colonial rule.
2. The Prague Spring (1968, Czechoslovakia)
Goal: Reform communist rule and promote political liberalization.
Non-violent nature: The resistance to Soviet occupation was largely peaceful, with students and citizens organizing demonstrations and protests without weapons. The Soviets responded militarily, but the movement itself refrained from violent resistance.
3. The Singing Revolution (1987–1991, Baltic States)
Countries: Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania
Goal: Independence from the Soviet Union.
Non-violent nature: Demonstrations, including massive singing protests, and human chains, characterized this peaceful resistance. It led to the Baltic countries gaining independence without armed conflict.
4. Velvet Revolution (1989, Czechoslovakia)
Goal: Ending Communist rule in Czechoslovakia.
Non-violent nature: Peaceful demonstrations and strikes without the use of weapons played a key role in toppling the Communist government, leading to a smooth transition to democracy.
5. People Power Revolution (1986, Philippines)
Leader: Corazon Aquino (opposition leader)
Goal: Ousting dictator Ferdinand Marcos.
Non-violent nature: The revolution involved mass protests, including civilians, priests, and nuns forming human barricades and peacefully opposing military forces. No weapons were wielded by the protestors.
6. Orange Revolution (2004, Ukraine)
Goal: Protesting election fraud and demanding a fair electoral process.
Non-violent nature: Large-scale protests occurred without the use of weapons. This resulted in a new election and a peaceful resolution to the crisis.
7. Tunisia’s Jasmine Revolution (2010-2011)
Goal: Removing President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali from power.
Non-violent nature: While there were some clashes, much of the movement involved peaceful protests, civil disobedience, and strikes that led to the overthrow of the government and sparked the broader Arab Spring.
These insurrections demonstrate how non-violent approaches can lead to substantial political change without resorting to armed conflict.”

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Nobody is asking you to do more.
Yet, doing nothing helps the tyrants to win.
An example of this was in Holland during WW2.
Under the occupation of Germany. Regardless of the consequences, some Dutch families hid Jews from being captured.
That was something they could do, something they believed God gave them to do.


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Rebel News is not worried about scared Jews in their selective reporting, they are concerned with getting you outraged, riled up and further stirring up civil unrest. If you are worried about the Jews in Canada, help create a sanctuary for them or something. I think they will be fine. The more legitimacy we give to the unhinged whether protestor or reporter, the more the fires get fueled. News establishments are just reminding us that we are not in control. We already know this.

I don’t find the news too helpful or reliable - they want to tell us how to think and what to be outraged over.

I didn’t need rebel news to get me outraged over Covid shut downs, I was living it… If it wasn’t for the news telling us to mask up and lock down nothing would have been different.

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Perhaps we will need to just agree to disagree on that one. I find it sad though.

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It’s all very sad. We can definitely agree on that!

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Yes it is sad, but I was actually talking about you, because you believe the worst about Rebel News. When the fact remains, without news organizations like them, there would be no way of finding out the truth.
I am not saying we should blindly trust what they are saying. Yet, it sometimes is obvious when they are reporting truth, especially as they are videoing live events and being persecuted for it.

Tom Ascol once said, that he likes to check news sources on both the left and right. Where they agree, chances are that is where the truth is found.

I think that is good advice; but I can’t bring myself to watch left News.
I believe the earlier advice from Pilgrim is very sound.

Tom

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Originally Posted by Anthony C.
I think Rebel News probably ultimately serves the agenda. What good are they accomplishing? What good do any of the funded, half-truthers and outrage-porn disseminators do? Soon we are onto the next outrage…. Covid, lgbt, etc… it never ends.

Independent researches were exposing things years ago that Tucker is just “revealing” now.
1. On what basis do you judge the motives of Rebel News owners, reporters, and/or others who work for that company?
2. And what "agenda" are you suggesting they are "serving"?
3. How is Rebel News probably serving this alleged agenda?
4. In one of your replies to Tom you complained that Rebel News and other conservative News agencies serve no real purpose other than to rile up the emotions of their listeners/readers. Is this actually wrong if reporting something stirs the emotions of someone? Is reporting the rescue of a family from a torrential flood and imminent death which stirs people in some way also wrong? People's responses are owned by the individuals themselves and not those who report the news. Secondly, where is it written that a news agency is responsible to DO something about what they find and then report? Their talent is in research, discovery and relaying the information to others. Must those who engage in this activity only qualify to do so IF they also have the ability to get personally involved to fix a problem, stop a criminal, prevent a catastrophe, feed all the poor, give medical care to those in need, etc. etc.??? Is it Rebel News or Newsmax therefore responsible to arrest, prosecute, judge and punish corrupt politicians? Please explain yourself so I can hopefully understand your angst and why it is directed at so many who may do their job(s) well!

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