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I share your pessimism about seminaries. Even many seminaries that started well, are going liberal.

There are still some good ones, but unless liberalism is nipped in the bud, before it takes root. We can expect more of the same.

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And there aren't many good seminaries either. I can tell you from experience, not all men who attend seminary are even regenerate. VanTil even implied that openly at the 1979 commencement of WTS Philadelphia. And I would quickly realize he wasn't mistaken. In fact, I suspected early on that this was true even of some of the profs. :sad: One of the tell-tale signs in that a pastor perhaps is yet unregenerate is the lack of humility, one of the fundamental attributes of someone who has been smitten by the convicting work of the Holy Spirit which drives one to the cross to cry out to God to have mercy and is compelled therefore to believe upon Christ. Humility, compassion and a love of the brethren are vital to the ministry.


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I am not quite as pessimistic as you.
I personally believe Founders Seminary is at present a good one.
I know someone, that goes there.
There are no perfect seminaries, or for that matter local Churches.

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Originally Posted by Tom
I am not quite as pessimistic as you.
I personally believe Founders Seminary is at present a good one.
I know someone, that goes there.
There are no perfect seminaries, or for that matter local Churches.

Tom
I don't consider myself pessimistic without warrant. I consider myself realistic based upon facts.

I didn't say there are NO good seminaries, did I? If I did, please provide the quote. Thanks.\

By your estimation that "There are no perfect seminaries or local Churches." are you suggesting:]
1. It doesn't matter which one you study at? OR There is no seminary one should study at?
2. The same applies to local churches as well. There was a 'vetted' OPC pastor who told a very dear friend of mine that it didn't matter where he chose to worship as long as he attended a local church e.g., the local United Methodist Church or the local Roman Catholic Church. On the other side, there is the old adage, "IF you should find a perfect church, don't join it because you'll ruin it." It is my clear understanding from Scripture that any local church one is considering MUST hold tenaciously and consistently to the fundamentals of the faith. And by that, I do not mean simply that God is Triune, Jesus is God, and you must believe in Jesus as your Savior to be saved. A Reformed Confessional church is the most basic starting point to be a church where one should consider. Next, does the church practice biblical worship; no contemporary worldly theatrics. Does the church teach and insist on holiness of life for all its members? And lastly, does the church administer biblical discipline? You may disagree, and that's fine I guess. But I must conform my thinking and living according to what I read in Scripture. smile


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Wilson gets a lot of exposure through Canon Press, his publishing house. They publish much of the Classical Christian school stuff which is attractive to many. He might have gain some attention from the debates on Federal Vision thouh he was largely criticize from within the Reformed community, Yet, I see today that he is recognized as a leading Reformed theologian in the press.


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Yet, I see today that he is recognized as a leading Reformed theologian in the press.
Consider the source. rolleyes2


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Yeah, it appears Wilson & Christian Nationalism is even getting a boost from our current administration or at least that’s how he’s being framed and portrayed by the media - obviously, the legacy media’s framing of these individuals & related fads is just another distraction.

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I must admit here, I read what you said without my glasses on.

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And there aren't many good seminaries either

Instead of seeing the word “many”, I saw the word “any”.
That was why I used the word “pessimistic”.

I apologize.

Like you, if one chooses to go to a seminary; they should be very choosy.

A while back, over coffee I was talking to my pastor about their search for another pastor for the Church.
Their search was a very frustrating one, as the Church had put together a series of questions for potential candidates.
Although they interviewed quite a few seminary trained candidates. They did not even find one, that did not have some liberal beliefs.

While, they eventually found one. That person, was from an established Church from a different province, who was looking to move to B.C.
Him and his wife and two small children, have been at the Church for more than a year now and fortunately he is a good pastor.

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I am not sure exactly what Wilson believes about “Christian Nationalism”. Perhaps because, I have no real interest in listening to him on the topic.
However, when I hear/read the term “Christian Nationalism”, most of the time nobody seems to agree on what it actually means.

The following panel Q&A session is basically what I think of the subject.



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I will have to watch that!!!


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