As the title indicates, it is a biography of a rather well-known author, Susan Bauer, who co-wrote a widely used book on classical education called The Well-Trained Mind. I just discovered this evening that she is a graduate from Westminster's M.Div. program. I would be curious as to what you think about: 1. Women being permitted to earn ministerial degrees. 2. Women being part of the faculty used to train men for the Gospel ministry (this question comes from perusing the WTS site tonight).
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I think the teacher who was reprimanded deserves and apology from the OPC. Great Commission Publications, who is the publishing ministry of the Committee on Christian Education of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and the Committee for Christian Education & Publications of the Presbyterian Church in America, has no problem with such pictures.
In reply to:Great Commission Publications, who is the publishing ministry of the Committee on Christian Education of the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and the Committee for Christian Education & Publications of the Presbyterian Church in America, has no problem with such pictures.
Sorry, but the Elders at the church DID have a problem with it as they are sworn to uphold the Confession Statement and Official Standards upon which the OPC is founded and to which they swore subscription. The fact that GCP is now including alleged pictures of any of the Godhead in their material is irrelevant, except that they too should be taken to task, IMHO. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/tongue.gif" alt="tongue" title="tongue[/img] And, here I thought that the OPC held firmly to Sola Scriptura and that the BIBLE is the "sole and final authority in all matters pertaining to faith and practice."???
Awhile ago Dr. Al Mohler answered a question about pictures of Jesus on his radio show. He said that he believed they were almost always a bad thing. The only exception he could think of was the use of the Jesus Film in pre-literate countries. He says he does not have any picture of Christ in his office, personal library, or home.<br><br>(Warning: off topic statement ahead) Awhile ago we had the discussion about lodges. Mohler also spoke out the other day on his call in show against Christian involvement in masonry. So not all Southern Baptists are fooled by the Masons.
True godliness is a sincere feeling which loves God as Father as much as it fears and reverences Him as Lord, embraces His righteousness, and dreads offending Him worse than death~ Calvin
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The letter will have no such smilies, that is just for this forum. It also does not have the words, "Here I stand." We are not to that point yet--that is we are only beginning to dig in our heals.
After the members were forwarded my wife’s response they have decided to forego a hearing for the time being. They said they could find nothing wrong “in how” (not “in what”) she taught, as she allowed each child to make their own decision and thus did not violate school policies. A small victory on one hand, but they still embrace their error on the other.
I'm happy to hear that Carel wasn't taken to the mat and reprimanded for what she taught. In such a situation, being allowed to teach HOW she did and not prohibiting her from teaching WHAT she did is a very major victory, IMHO. You certainly can't expect everything to agree on such things, even though they are biblically supported and had been embraced by the vast majority of churches throughout history. We are in "fallow" times, brother. Take what you can get and be glad. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/joy.gif" alt="joy" title="joy[/img]
I am very happy indeed that (1) my wife stood up for the truth and taught it (2) that she gets to maintain her position, and (3) most important that God was glorified in the process. I still pray though for the understanding of those as her "jurors" that they will see the light of the truth of what the Gospel teaches concerning this. Of course, in our day of religious ignornace....
In reply to:...the making any representation of God, of all or of any of the three persons, either inwardly in our mind, or outwardly in any kind of image or likeness of any creature whatsoever...
So all those paintings from hundreds of years ago, like "Jesus Descending From the Cross" by Rembrandt(?) are breaking the second commandment? I thought it was wrong to make a painting of Jesus, God, et. al. to worship it, not just to be a work of art. But I'm probably wrong...
In the midst of your sadness and woe, when you are tormented and afflicted, have comfort! God's will is done.
Yes, all the paintings and such were/are wrong and sinful. This statement by TB just nails it for me. Look at the logic here:
It is not lawful to have pictures of Jesus Christ, because his divine nature cannot be pictured at all, and because his body, as it is now glorified, cannot be pictured as it is; and because, if it do not stir up devotion, it is in vain; if it do stir up devotion, it is a worshiping by an image or picture, and so a palpable breach of the second commandment.
Joe, Prayed for your wife today; glad things went well. I'm rather standing in those shoes myself.
Pilgrim, what do you mean by "fallow times"? I know what the word 'fallow' means, but do you mean that for some reason God has not seen fit to give growth and harvest in the West? If so, I agree--it's a notion I've had for some time now, but never vocalised because it seems...well, sort of faithless to think such things. We have good churches and good preachers and good seminaries, but even if we need more of them it seems that even where there are good sound institutions there seems to be little growth--like the seed that falls on hard ground and cannot get root. Too many of these good churches are timy ones that no one seems interested in joining, and too many of these seminaries are struggling financially. It's a discouraging thought, but the comfort is always that God does know what He is doing.
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