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I know that their faith doesn't have anything to do with them or me, but that it's a gift of God, and their salvation is dependent upon God's sovereign work in their life in any event, and I'll try to be a faithful steward in Christ, but there's no way that I'll be able to ever effect salvation in my children no matter how faithful I am in their upbringing. God is totally sovereign, yet I remain responsible for all of my actions, and I think that ultimately this point is what people can't swallow in all of this. I only get it down my gullet (if at all) by the grace of God. How's that?
Nicely spoken, IMHO! <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bravo.gif" alt="" /> There are two certainties which I can and do presume, because they are clearly taught in Scripture and not the wishful fiction of man.

1) Everyone, including my children are born in sin and under the judgment of God. Their salvation is not dependent upon the fact that they are born into a covenant family, nor my faithfulness in rearing them in the truths of God, although I am without doubt held responsible for doing so. Unless they repent and believe upon Christ, they will surely be cast into the Lake of Fire along with every other uncoverted sinner and suffer even more due to their having been given the blessings of the means of grace.

2) Not one of God's elect will perish. But, since God is the sovereign Who had set apart a people for Himself, if my children are predestined to eternal life, they will eventually and infallibly be called and washed in the blood of Christ Jesus.

So, I presume that my children are in need of God's sovereign mercy and grace. And, I presume that God's promise to save all for whom Christ died is immutable. The God of all the earth will do right. (Gen 18:25) And thus, my HOPE rests in HIM and HIM alone, not in any manufactured theory of presumptive regeneration or presumptive election. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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