I almost cried reading this thread, because many of the "pop" stuff here you are talking about is right in my very church that I am currently "stuck" in. From experiencing it every Sunday, I can tell you the thing that bothers me the most is that it leaves one EMPTY. And that is one of the reasons I think I am drawn to your site. Because for about 5 years now (since we've had a new pastor) and especially in the last 18 months I have just felt more empty. The deceptive things about all of this "Pop" stuff is that it either sounds good or looks good, like the frosting on a cake; but there's no cake underneath. And that pretty much describes my church right now. No real foundation that's very important.