Hi CovenantInBlood,

You asked,
"At what point is it sinful to defend your neighbor from foreign enemies?"

Good question, point well taken. I didn't actually explain my point very well earlier. I have no problem defending unregenerate people from enemies. In fact, I would likely be one of the first people to take up arms against invading enemies in order to protect my family, home, neighborhood, and loved ones from enemies. I would not, however, join our military, swear an oath to uphold the constitution, and defend our institutions, customs, "rights," "liberties" (many of which are really bondage, i.e., freedom of religion, freedom to slaughter children, freedom to sleep with whoever spreads their legs [or, now, I suppose bends over]...), etc. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for the genuine liberties that we have: freedom to worship Christ, declare Christ, make a living, own a home, etc., and I have a kind of admiration for the men who have fought and died to allow us to have that. I don't, however, think that means what they did was entirely right, nor ultimately worthy of their blood. To die defending an atheist power that is quickly trending toward persecuting Christians through 'hate-crime' legislation is a sinful waste of blood. I know that is offensive, but, what should I say? God bless our soldiers who defend this perverted, wicked, and apostate nation that has God for an enemy? I can't do that. God abhors this nation, and we better wake up and smell the coffee. His wrath is gradually being unleashed and it won't be long (not fifty years, if I were to guess) and we'll resemble the fallen Soviet Union, if we're not speaking Arabic, Chinese, or tortured like we are perceived to have tortured others.

Listen: our nation is vile. God hates it, and it hates God. Anyone is "free" to worship <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/bow.gif" alt="" /> this land and follow it blindly while it slaughters millions of the most innocent people that live, but you won't catch me doing the same, God help me. I can stand before God with a clear conscience knowing that I've actually given this thought and not simply listened to my blind Sunday School teachers that would rather bow to George Washington than Jesus Christ.

Sorry about the apparent invective, it isn't directed to you - I think your question was a good one. In fact, I'm not even sitting here filled with anger right now. I just think it is important that the abominations of America be made abundantly clear. That being said, insofar as this nation is my homeland and the land of my people, I love it and desperately want it to do what is right by repenting. I love the people, appreciate the fact that it is better than almost any other country in the world when it comes to my personal circumstances and opportunities, and desire the best for it. I just can't see how a Christian could defend it and not be censured by their church.

-John

Last edited by jmp; Tue May 11, 2004 1:05 AM.
"He that hath light thoughts of sin, never had great thoughts of God." ...John Owen