Thanks John_C

The verses you gave me I will read, Pilgrim sent me information days ago which would have helped, but me big dummy deleted it, I didnot mean to but my brain must have been in space some where.

John, what do you mean the bible will not sway my Revs. ways because we are Methodist,if I remember liberal it means, that church rules are at level with GODS commandments but,he is a pastor if I find out that his conference rules come before the bible in that meeting <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/argue.gif" alt="" /> oh man I will be in trouble then, my mouth will get me in big trouble.

neicey