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J_Edwards said:BTW, I still don't understand why erroneously baptizing unbelievers is an argument against credobaptism. In my post above you will see that I said, "Baptists and Presbyterians BOTH baptize individuals which are not saved." Presbys do it based upon a covenant relationship. On what basis do Baptist's do it? What Scriptural support do you have for baptizing an unbeliever? The remainder of your post was answered here. First Joe glad to hear about your wife I hope her recovery go smoothly and that she will be in good health once again in a short time. Second now when you say that both Presbyterians and Baptists baptize individuals (and at this point I'm assuming you mean adults) whom are not saved you mean those persons who have falsely stated that they are believers but in fact are not. If so then you are correct there is nothing in baptist theology that states we are to baptize unbelievers (adult) However, I believe that there is scripture procedure that should be done once this has been discovered. And Simon also himself believed: and being baptized, he continued with Philip; and beholding signs and great miracles wrought, he was amazed. Now when Simon saw that the Holy Spirit was given through the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money, saying, "Give me also this power, that whoever I lay my hands on may receive the Holy Spirit." But Peter said to him, "May your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain the gift of God with money! You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart isn't right before God. Repent therefore of this, your wickedness, and ask God if perhaps the thought of your heart may be forgiven you. For I see that you are in the gall of bitterness and in the bondage of iniquity." (Ac 8:13, 18-23) The elders of the Church must confront the man or woman and tell them to repent and if they do not then they must be treated as an unbeliever and if necessary put out of the church. How do the Presbyterians respond?
Peter
If you believe what you like in the gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the gospel you believe, but yourself. Augustine of Hippo
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