Quote
fredman said:
A buddy of mine I know from seminary attended Rogers's church for many years. He had positive things to say about the overall congregation and so forth. However, in the mid-90s, several college kids became calvinistic in their theology. They were promoting the Founders and various Reformed writings. I want to say several of the college staff also became Calvinistic and were teaching the doctrines of Grace from the college pulpit. Rogers became alarmed and basically went on his personal witch hunt to smoke out all the Calvinists causing division in his Church. One of the results was an address he gave to the overall college department in which he, and his army of strawmen, outlined Calvinism and explained why it is unbiblical and he is by no means "calvinistic." He hurled the typical illogical argumentation about reading every book in print on Calvinism (why is this assertion so often raised by anti-calvinists?), that he wanted to preach the Bible, and basically equated historic Calvinism with hypercalvinism.

The transcript of the talk use to be on-line with comments by one of the ousted Calvinistic college students who attended the meeting. It has since been taken down at Roger's request.

If this is what I think it is, it is still around as hardcopy. Also this rebuttal was done by a RUF minister who had no connection to Bellevue.

As I recall a couple of the points:

1) Total Depravity means you are as bad as you can be.

2) Perserverance of the Saint means you can lose your salvation. Something along the lines that you can walk the aisle and live a holy life but then deny Chirst on your deathbed and lose it all.


Soli Deo Gloria
John Schultz
[Linked Image]