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Tom said: Pilgrim
I am wondering if Brian has misrepresented Calvin's view of this matter. If so can you show me where he has done so with proof? Sorry Tom, but you can do your own research on this matter, for I have no need to do so, nor does the majority of those who hold that justification by faith without the works of the law (if they be contributory to justification) is the biblical doctrine. IMHO, this would be nothing but falling for the old "wild goose chase". The REAL issue here is that these heretics want to convince everyone that what they are teaching is in accord and not contradictory to that which Calvin taught. The ploy is, of course, if Calvin is a reliable source and the fountain from which Calvinism flows, and if their view is in harmony with his, then it is expedient that those who hold to the historic view of Sola Fide recant their position and embrace theirs (aka: Calvin's actual view), thus becoming "real Calvinists". In this they are dead wrong, for Calvin taught no such doctrine which they are espousing. Secondly, it is imperative that one not be beguiled by this deceit and the twisting of facts of which the sole purpose is to have their heresy gain acceptance in the theological theater. It is not John Calvin who is the bastian of truth but the Holy Scriptures themselves; Sola Scriptura. And should by some outside possibility that it be shown that Calvin actually did teach what these men claim he did, i.e., "their" view, then Calvin was likewise dead wrong and must be deemed a heretic along with all those who teach this doctrine of a synergistic soteriology. Thus the onus is upon these men to show from Scripture that their view, which is decidedly contrary to the historic view of Sola Fide is in fact the truth, apart from any claim that John Calvin's understanding of Sola Fide is allegedly that which they hold. In His Grace,
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