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Delivered said: Dealing with the latter part first. When Christ comes again as you say and I agree, our hope will become reality and our faith will become sight. So I believe that the scripture in 1 Corinthians 13 speaks to the coming of Christ so What we know in part will be completed. That is my belief from this Scripture. Our theology says that it is the word that is the perfect thing that is being reffered to. I say that the WOrd is perfect. However this passage in 1 Corinthians 13 is speaking of the coming of Jesus and that is finality the completed thing. Then you will have to explain why faith and hope abide in contrast to prophecy, tongues, and knowledge. Also the "Tongues" in the 1 verse of this chapter is the same recurring through the entire chapter and the verse itself refers to the tongues of men and of angels. The Tongue here being a Language that is spoken by men and men speaking the Language of Angels and further down in the scripture at verse 8 saying clearly that this will cease along with prophecy (Shall fail=Abolish, cease do away). I believe this too because it is scripture. And can you show me anywhere in the Bible where angels do not speak in the same tongues in which men speak? "That which is perfect" =Of Full Age, completeness) Colossians 2:10 "And you are complete in Him (Christ) which is the Head of All Principality and Power. The next verse in 1 Corinthians 13, verse 11 speaks to growing up coming of Age and being completed and the only time that will happen my brother is when Christ comes and we are complete in Him. All questions anwered, all knowledge fulfilled. That is what this scripture speaks to. The Word of God only points us to that which is perfect. Someone in this discussion made refernce to the scripture that states that the Word of God is for the means of sharpening, guiding, preparing us all so that we can be prepared we will only be completed in Christ. That's NOT what the text is referring to. The text is discussing partial, incomplete revelation. The Bible is the completion of revelation. My Experiences. All the experiences that I have had in this walk with the Lord has always been explained in the scriptures, and supported by the scriptures and Testimonials about ones walk in the Lord should be shared (not Bragged about and I never Brag about my own because I know I do not deserve them) but they should be shared and persons should be encouraged to share their testimonies. The Lord has saved me and delivered me from all kinds of trials and tribulations and I will not allow anyone to try and get me to be silent about what the Lord has done or reveals to me. Once again I say that all experiences and revelations in Christ are confirmed in Scripture. If it is not confirmed in the scriptures then it is a personal thing that came from your mind not God. So I do not count all revelations and all experiences only the ones that can be confirmed in the scriptures and this includes Tongues and prophecies, Word of knowledge, Messages about healings and deliverance, once it is confirmed in the scriptures. You haven't shown that modern-day charismatic gifts are confirmed in Scripture.
Kyle
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