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Tracylight said:
And now on to a tangent on apologetics and "proof vs evidence": The two main branches as I understand it are evidentialism and Presuppositionalism. I believe they can both be excellent tools for sharing the gospel, but that they should still be used as minor tools alongside the Great tool of Gods word and His Law.

The Jews require a sign…evidence …Greeks seek after wisdom… the presuppositional method- Interesting.

1 Peter 3:15 "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and [be] ready always to [give] an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:"


Paul tells us that the "evidences" are self-evident to every man both in the things which can be seen and by the manifestation of that truth by God Himself within them. What a Christian must do to make an "apologetic" (defense) of the truth is to show the fallacy of the unbeliever's rejection of the truth he already knows, rejected and that which he has substituted in its place (a lie). THIS is what "Presuppositional Apologetics" is all about. May I recommend to you a couple of excellent books on this subject:

1) Aways Ready: Directions for Defending the Faith, by Greg Bahnsen; see brief review here.

2) Apologetics to the Glory of God, by John Frame.

In His grace,


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