The Highway Forums General Discussion Theology Discussion Forum God does not command evil?

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, although you shall be judged for holding error. The most wicked act ever committed by men was crucifixion of the Lord Christ. And it is CLEARLY said to have occurred and it could have only occurred due to the eternal determinate counsel of God.

Acts 2:22-24 (ASV) "Ye men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God unto you by mighty works and wonders and signs which God did by him in the midst of you, even as ye yourselves know; him, being delivered up by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye by the hand of lawless men did crucify and slay: whom God raised up, having loosed the pangs of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Acts 4:26-28 (ASV) "The kings of the earth set themselves in array, And the rulers were gathered together, Against the Lord, and against his Anointed: for of a truth in this city against thy holy Servant Jesus, whom thou didst anoint, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, were gathered together, to do whatsoever thy hand and thy council foreordained to come to pass."

It is by God's foreordination that ALL THINGS, right down to the movement of the smallest particle of matter, the very thoughts of men and creatures, come to be and are providentially guided to their appointed ends.

Psalms 135:6 (ASV) "Whatsoever Jehovah pleased, that hath he done, In heaven and in earth, in the seas and in all deeps;"

Isaiah 46:9-10 (ASV) "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; [I am] God, and there is none like me; declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times things that are not [yet] done; saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure;"

Daniel 4:35 (ASV) "And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?"

Ephesians 1:9-11 (ASV) "making known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he purposed in him unto a dispensation of the fulness of the times, to sum up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth; in him, [I say,] in whom also we were made a heritage, having been foreordained according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his will;"

Romans 11:33-36 (ASV) "O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and the knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past tracing out! For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? For of him, and through him, and unto him, are all things. To him [be] the glory for ever. Amen."

You simply can't choose to change the definition of a biblical term to suit your own preconceived ideas! This fictitious "god" of yours doesn't meet the biblical definition of deity. For, you have a "god" who has no power over what comes to pass but who can only react to the evil acts of devils and men after they occur since according to you, these acts have not been preordained. Thus devils and wicked men act apart from the sovereign power and authority of God. Sure sounds like Dualism to me. R.C. Sproul was 100% correct... reject the biblical teaching on God's absolute sovereignty over all things in both power and AUTHORITY, whereby all things have been foreordained by His perfect and immutable counsel and you fall headlong into Atheism. What I find most ironic about you, dear speratus, is that you reject any and all biblical teaching concerning the free-agency of man in regard to salvation but equally reject the sovereignty of God over fallen angels and men. You have created the proverbial puppets that are saved by God's sovereign power but these same puppets, who you have said on many an occasion don't even have the freedom of will to sin, that are doing wickedness which God has nothing to do with. Sorry... but that's not only illogical, it is utterly irrational.

In His Grace,