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Johnnie_Burgess said:
I was thinking mostly about leaders who get ordanined knowing they dont agree with their church but seem to try to change the church to fit their ideas instead of going somewhere else.
Well, first of all, the fact that one would accept ordination in a church where he disagrees with their theology makes me wonder if the man truly understands theology at all? or if the man's ethics are questionable? When I was at WTS I met a young man who made no attempt to hide the fact that he rejected orthodox Christianity and embraced neo-Orthodoxy at best and leaned heavily toward pure Liberalism. But he also made it quite clear that when it came time to take his final exams, he would write all the "correct" answers. And when he took his final oral exam he would simply tell the examiners what they wanted to hear in order that he could get his degree. When asked why he would basically lie about what he truly believed, he gleefully said that his plans were to be ordained to the pulpit ministry in an orthodox church where he could then teach and preach his views. So, there are those who are hypocrites and who are doubtless unregenerate yet who are ordained to office in the church. If anyone believes that all Elders and/or Deacons are infallibly true believers in Christ, may I suggest you open your eyes to the sad reality of the world we live in, not excluding the Church. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/giggle.gif" alt="" />

On the other hand, if a man is ordained to office and his denomination changes its theological stand on a fundamental issue which demands that all adhere to the change and that change is unbiblical, then it probably would be best to leave that denomination. Again, there are simply too many scenarios which one could come up with to give a "one rule for all" type answer that would suffice.

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