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speratus said: However, that is not the criteria established by scripture for the stewards of the mystery (1 Cor. 11:18-20). As 2 Thes. 3:14-15 states, "if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother." The examination and the withholding of communion are signs of love and concern for our dear Christian brother. There is NO SUCH CRITERIA, which you are espousing, to be found in either of the texts referenced nor in the entire Bible. You are opposed to God and grace when you attempt to restrict Christ's sheep from coming to the Table..... by demanding that they qualify themselves by passing some doctrinal examination fabricated by men!! Is this so difficult to understand?  You really need to learn how to exegete and then rightly apply the Scriptures so that you are not constantly taking texts out of CONTEXT and thus promoting nothing more than pretext.  2 Thessalonians 3:11-15 (ASV) "For we hear of some that walk among you disorderly, that work not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort in the Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread. But ye, brethren, be not weary in well-doing. And if any man obeyeth not our word by this epistle, note that man, that ye have no company with him, to the end that he may be ashamed. And [yet] count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother."
First..... it is undeniably clear that this passage has absolutely nothing to do with demanding a believer pass a doctrinal examination in order to qualify for admission to the Lord's Table. To use this passage in that manner is gross "eisogesis". Second, the CONTEXT here is in regard to certain individuals who were basically lazy and going about spreading rumours, sticking their noses into other people's business instead of doing their own work and even engaging in disorderly conduct. Thus it is to them that Paul says that they should straighten up else be subject to a break in close fellowship (aka: ostracized) by the members of the assembly in order that they may be ashamed of their unacceptable behaviour, repent and return with a new attitude, etc. 2 Timothy 2:15 (ASV) "Give diligence to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, handling aright the word of truth." In His grace,
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