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speratus said:
I was referring to the lesser ban (from communion) which is the intent of passage. Although "shunned" from the sacrament, the sinner is still considered a Christian brother.
Once again.... you are guilty of eisogesis and rendering the Scriptures to your own destruction. The passage (2 Thessalonians 3:11-15) says NOTHING about the Lord's Table. "Communion of the Saints" is not synonymous with the term "communion" as it is sometimes used to refer to the Lord's Table. And further, there is NOTHING even hinted at in that passage nor anywhere in the entire Bible that instructs the Elders of an assembly to conduct a doctrinal examination of all those who desire to partake of the Lord's Table. As is so typical of you, no Scripture has been offered in defense of your erroneous ideas. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/igiveup.gif" alt="" />

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speratus queries:
Would a gross and manifest sinner under church discipline be invited to commune if he confesses his past sins to the elders or is penance required first?
Your question makes no sense. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/rolleyes2.gif" alt="" /> 1) A church member under discipline is automatically barred from the Lord's Table. Thus there is no "invitation" for him to partake of it. 2) What is required of one under discipline is repentance. If the Elders perceive genuine repentance then the individual is entitled to full communion in the assembly which would include partaking of the sacraments.

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