Pilgrim,<br><br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]When I read that chapter, I understand it to have been written by Paul as a believer looking back to when he was not converted AND after he was converted. What we see there is a 'mini-history' of Paul's life in regard to the struggle with and against sin from before God regenerated him up to his present time. Perhaps that's enough said at this time?</font><hr></blockquote><p><br><br>[color:red]AMEN</font color=red><br> I'm just puzzled by those who say that they are reformed and yet deny this meaning of the passage. How can one hold to total depravity and them claim that this is not a beliver(.ie verses 14-25)?<br><br>Carlos

"Let all that mind...the peace and comfort of their own souls, wholly apply themselves to the study of Jesus Christ, and him crucified"(Flavel)