How can one hold to total depravity and them claim that this is not a beliver(.ie verses 14-25)?<br><br>I think this certainly pertains to Paul the believer. However, one could hold to total depravity and yet still say this refers back to his unregenerate days.<br><br>For example, if I talk about how sinful I was when I was an unregenerate, I am telling the truth. In no way am I denying that I am sinful now! And I think (hope?) some of the folks who say this passage refers back to Paul's unregenerate days think the same way, that Paul is not saying he is perfect or sinless now, but that he merely is reflecting back to a sinful time in his life. <br><br>Steve

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