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Pilgrim said:
Jeff,

It's a universal rule of hermeneutics that you NEVER formulate a doctrine based upon a less than clear text against myriad texts which are clear on the subject. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I tried that argument, actually. At this point, while he is a good friend I think he's just being wilfully obstinate at this point. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" />

But, I will have a closer look through some of those articles, Pilgrim, and see how many weapons I can load up laugh