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Sir Pilgrim,
Seeing as you are the head-honcho here at the Highway, you can pretty much say whatever you like to say, so I will ignore our comments of those of a man who smokes too much tabakee and drinks too much ale, and whose thick specs are blurring his vision to the rest of the text.
If you say that you can conclude from the text Genesis 3, that Adam and Eve were spiritually dead, and that the serpents interpretation of God's word to them was correct, then it would further be true to say in the light of what follows that God is spiritually dead too. No? Gen 3:22-24
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:
I can add all sorts of ideas to the text that are not there. I can say that man became and independant being just like God and that for Him to continue to be like that by eating the tree of life, would be diabolical. (but the text does not say anywhere what they became other than they became 'as one of us' - It seems they went from being spiritually blind to knowing good and evil, just like 'one of us' Damage control followed and ...
Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Whatever Adam had become, he was in a dangerous enough state to warrant expulsion from the garden of Eden, and would certianly with his new found independance make a go at getting some of the nectar from the tree of LIFE.
Now if one is going to stick to strict literal and not metaphysical symbolic, I am not entirely sure how you have extracted as much as I have, which I know is not there. There is nothing plain and simple that says Adam and Eve were now spiritually dead, but rather a future fact that instead of living forever, they would eventually die.
If you believe that Adam and Eve died spiritually then please show me in the book of Genesis, or anywhere else in the bible I can learn this truth. I am being earnest so please refrain from bringing my shame into the game.
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