I quess what I am asking is how do you personally answer or talk with people who hold such views.

I have tried the logical approach. I asked if this is true then what is the point of the cross? That genreated some honest discussion but in the end many could not see the conflict of say that faith in Jesus saves me but who know how he might choose to save someone else.

In the end I felt like <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/Banghead.gif" alt="" />.

Is there any other conclusion to draw from this line of thinking but that in order to just God must save all people in the end?

<img src="/forum/images/graemlins/sorry.gif" alt="" />I did not mean to be accussing. I am sorry that I did not make myself clear. The dynamic of the other forum is much more dynamic. Opinions are offfered without much prompting. Things clearly move a little more slowly here and I will take that into account in the future. <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/thewave.gif" alt="" />