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Tom said:
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"God loves you, Christ died for you, and now God pleads with you to believe so that you may be saved"

I haven't heard/read anyone on either side of this issue say that.
Have you Machaira?

Good morning Tom, <img src="/forum/images/graemlins/coffee2.gif" alt="" />

I don't remember hearing those exact words, but there are those within the Reformed camp, (past and present), who believe in God's universal love for man, and His desire for all without exception to be saved. They would also contend that this is part and parcel of the doctrine of "common grace." This particular discussion also includes the debate over whether or not God has "two wills," i.e., a will of precept/command and a will of decree. I think this is what William is thinking about. I don't understand his combativeness though. No one is arguing for either position in this thread.

If anyone is interested in what this debate over "common grace" is about, click on the link below to hear a formal debate.

"Is the Doctrine of Common Gr...ard Mouw versus Prof. David J. Engelsma


Jim

Jud 1:3 . . . contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints.