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In answer to my request to show one solitary text that shows that God is responsible to keep the moral law and not man, you replied with:<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]You're talking about the moral law, correct? If so, I already did --- Ezekiel 36:27.</font><hr></blockquote><p>Let's look at the actual text to see if it teaches that God is responsible/keeps the law for a believer:<blockquote>Ezekiel 36:26-27 (ASV) "A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you; and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause [color:red]you</font color=red> to walk in my statutes, and [color:red]ye shall keep</font color=red> mine ordinances, and do them."</blockquote> Why would you ever choose THIS text as a prooftext for your view? [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh[/img] A child in grammar school could read this text and see that it is the individual who will "walk" and "keep" the law of God and not God/Holy Spirit. I think that is called, "Shooting yourself in the foot."!!<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr>[color:"blue"]Let me put icing on the cake. Read Galatians 2:20 and Col 3:3.</font><hr></blockquote><p>Again, let's look at the actual texts. First of all, you want me to read Galatians 2:20, which reads:<blockquote>Galatians 2:20 (ASV) "I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me: and that [life] which [color:red]I now live</font color=red> in the flesh [color:red]I live in faith</font color=red>, [the faith] which is in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself up for me."</blockquote>As was true for the passage in Ezekiel, so it is also true of the Galatian text...!! It is PAUL who does the living in faith not God. (cf. Rom 6:16)<br><br>And lastly, you referenced Colossians 3:3, which reads:<blockquote>Colossians 3:1-3 (ASV) "If then ye were raised together with Christ, [color:red][you should/must] seek</font color=red> the things that are above, where Christ is, seated on the right hand of God. [color:red][you should/must] Set your mind</font color=red> on the things that are above, not on the things that are upon the earth. For ye died, and your life is hid with Christ in God.</blockquote>Once again, it is the individual who is exhorted to "set your mind" and to "seek", which clearly shows that the believer is responsible to do these things, not God. Secondly, there is absolutely nothing even inferred in this text concerning the keeping of the moral law. Thus, your putting "icing on the cake" is a total fiction as there isn't even any cake to put it on. [img]http://www.the-highway.com/w3timages/icons/rolleyes.gif" alt="rolleyes" title="rolleyes[/img]<br><br>In His Grace,
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