The Highway Forums General Discussion Open Forum Joyce Meyer

My understanding is that she is not just another prosperity gospel preacher but a heretic who claims to receive direct revelation from God. She is a heretic! and ought to be avoided. Much of her teaching is akin to Copeland and Benny Hinn; her teaching on the atonement is horrible. i.e. maybe Jesus didn't really die on the cross but possibly Judas took his place. I used to work for a book pre-publishing services provider company that prepared some of Meyer's books and study materials. I was told that they were "Christian" but upon closer examination discovered that she is a heretic, albeit a very rich heretic who has made millions by deceiving people.

From her web site:
“The Godhead"
Our God is One, but manifested in three persons"”the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (Philippians 2:6; John 14:21-26)

God the Father is greater than all, and He is the Source of the Word (Logos) and the Begetter. (John 14:28; John 16:28; John 1:14)

The Son is the flesh-covered Word, the One Begotten, and has existed with the Father from the beginning. (John 1:14; John 1:18; John 1:1)

The Holy Spirit proceeds forth from both the Father and the Son and is eternal. (John 15:26)”

She says that God is one but appears to us in three personalities - not that He is three Persons.

A good critique.
http://www.pfo.org/wan-star.htm


Not a sinner

http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac17.htm


I Jn. 1:8-10 " If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us."

"John refutes the error that we have no sin nature, by using the word sin in the singular. It is not just the committal of sin but the principle of sin, he is referring to sin of every description. If we are sinless then there is no need to ever confess sins, that is something to seriously think of as a worldview. To those who profess to have become perfectly sanctified, and to live without any sin, John says If we say that we have no sin, and continue to sin we live in self deception, “and the truth is not in us.” This kind of attitude will affect all that we do. Meyer's claim of not being a sinner any longer is very concerning because she is promoting this as a revelation from Scripture, when it is not. Her doctrine of justification is skewed.

We are called righteous and even saints as Peter points out 1 Peter 4:18: “Now If the righteous one is scarcely saved, where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?” Even though we are covered with Christ’s righteousness our sin remains, we have a sin nature (an old nature) that has not been removed. No saint ever claimed this pure spiritual condition. Not Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; Not Job, Moses, David; nor anyone in the New Testament Peter, John, or Paul. None were absolutely perfect, they were all guilty of acts of sin? They never affirmed themselves as not being a sinner. The Bible does not teach that ALL Christians are perfect or no longer sinners. Paul said he was the chief of sinners and continued to do what he did not want to at times. “But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me” (Rom. 7:17). Sin is always present with us until we leave this earth." http://www.letusreason.org/popteac17.htm


http://www.letusreason.org/Popteac17.htm

http://www.trinityfi.org/press/JoyceMeyer6.html


“ATONEMENT AMBIGUITIES

Meyer can be classified as a Word-Faith teacher and as such has shown an inclination to waffle on major doctrines. In her 1991 booklet, The Most Important Decision You Will Ever Make, an evangelistic work aimed at nonbelievers, she resounds the Word-Faith view of Christ’s atonement:

“During that time He entered hell, where you and I deserved to go (legally) because of our sin. He paid the price there ... no plan was too extreme ... Jesus paid on the cross and in hell” (pg. 35, underlining in the original).

“God rose up from His throne and said to demon powers tormenting the sinless Son of God, ‘Let Him go.’ Then the resurrection power of Almighty God went through hell and filled Jesus ... He was resurrected from the dead — the first born-again man” (pg. 36, underlining in the original).

“His spirit went to hell because that is where we deserved to go. Remember in the very beginning of this, I said, ‘When you die, only your body dies. The rest of you, your soul and spirit, goes either to heaven or hell’” (ibid.).

“There is no hope of anyone going to heaven unless they believe this truth I am presenting. You cannot go to heaven unless you believe with all your heart that Jesus took your place in hell” (ibid.).

“Jesus went to hell for you” (pg. 38, underlining in the original).

All of the above citations are from her chapter entitled, “What Should You Believe?”. The first subheading in this chapter is “What Happened on the Cross?”. Those familiar with Word-Faith vernacular will recall Kenneth Copeland’s 1984 tape, “What Happened From the Cross to the Throne.” Copeland apparently borrowed the title and theme from E.W. Kenyon’s book by the same name.

Meyer teaches the classic “Born-Again Jesus” gospel that has been taught by Copeland, Kenneth Hagin, Fred Price, John Jacobs, Charles Capps, Benny Hinn and Jan Crouch, to name a few. It’s usually presented under the guise of “revelation knowledge,” given by the Holy Spirit and grounded in Scripture. However, this gospel does not stand up under biblical scrutiny.

Charismatics many times will make their case by saying, “Jesus went to hell. Doesn’t it say so somewhere in the book of Acts?”
While it is true that Jesus went to hell (Ephesians 4:8-9; 1 Peter 3:18), attention should be focused on what He did or didn’t do there. Meyer and her kind teach that Jesus went there to pay for our sins, it’s the same kind of payment — or better — that He made on the cross.”

“Like all Word of Faith (WOF) preachers, Joyce has a faulty understanding of the atonement, commonly known as the Spiritual Death of Jesus. In this whole theory it is the Devil and his sensational killing of Jesus in hell that somehow attained our salvation. God is just a weak spectator in this whole theory. It is not the wrath of God that Jesus bore, but the cruel torture of the devils in hell. Joyce then makes a really funny twisting of scriptures to get over some of the biblical obstacles to preach this theory. She also makes a really common Charismatic claim that she got all these information not from the Bible, but from special revelation. Thus she assaults the sufficiency of Scriptures and makes it plain that she indeed is preaching an extra biblical truth. “ http://reformed-theoblogy.blogspot.com/2010/11/contending-for-truth-joyce-meyer-expose.html

Here are a few others links about her ministry.

http://www.trinityfi.org/press/JoyceMeyer1.html
http://www.trinityfi.org/press/JoyceMeyer2.html
http://www.trinityfi.org/press/JoyceMeyer3.html
http://www.trinityfi.org/press/JoyceMeyer4.html

A simple google search will bring up ample information