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AC. said: I'm not looking for perfection - but a change in GOdly desires would probably exclude Sunday idol worship, no? Not too trivial - I think this could be a small indicator of one whose inclinations are either turned to GOd or not. I guess either I failed to make the point or you aren't getting it?  What I was trying to get across was that you appeared to singling out something which you personally had struggled with and making it something far worse than it was; one who consistently watches NFL football on Sunday can't be saved. We ALL sin in myriad ways and thus I was attempting to show you that sanctification is a process and not an something that instantly happens. King David was a murderer and adulterer yet his salvation was secure in Christ. This is NOT in any shape or form to be misconstrued as saying that I believe that one can live a life of gross sin, or any sin, and rest assured that they are saved.  A person who profanes the Lord's Day by watching NFL football on that day has a problem to be sure. That problem in my estimation isn't in the OUTWARD watching of the game(s), but rather with the mind and heart. Perhaps that individual has never heard a sermon or been taught about the Lord's Day, although I would hope the Spirit would bring some type of conviction to one's soul about this. And, if this person came to understand the blessings given by God to believers on The Lord's Day, he/she would then see that watching "the game" was dishonoring to God and a waste of time. Remember, David didn't repent the day after...!  Instead of immediately condemning others for what WE perceive as being a sin, even if it is an actual transgression of God's law, we should humbly remember the pit from whence we were dragged out of by a merciful God and brought to the knowledge of Christ. And doubtless, we have some remaining sin which we might not even be aware of, that we need to repent of, don't you think? Psalms 19:7-14 (ASV) "The law of Jehovah is perfect, restoring the soul: The testimony of Jehovah is sure, making wise the simple. The precepts of Jehovah are right, rejoicing the heart: The commandment of Jehovah is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of Jehovah is clean, enduring for ever: The ordinances of Jehovah are true, [and] righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold; Sweeter also than honey and the droppings of the honeycomb. Moreover by them is thy servant warned: In keeping them there is great reward. Who can discern [his] errors? Clear thou me from hidden [faults]. Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous [sins]; Let them not have dominion over me: Then shall I be upright, And I shall be clear from great transgression. Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in thy sight, O Jehovah, my rock, and my redeemer."
In His grace,
simul iustus et peccator
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