I'm with Boanerges! And, as the one who started this thread, I especially don't want to see this denigrate into the war that happened here several years ago. grace2u, I don't believe Pilgrim was smearing the name of Baptists. I have not heard Clarke used by Baptists, but that doesn't mean no Baptists have used him. My views don't stand or fall by what Clarke, Judson, Calvin, or anyone says, except that which the Bible teaches. I know Pilgrim would say the same.

I'm sure Pil would also rejoice in knowing that tonight some Reformed Baptists prayed for his church's mission work in the Ukraine!!

True godliness is a sincere feeling which loves God as Father as much as it fears and reverences Him as Lord, embraces His righteousness, and dreads offending Him worse than death~ Calvin