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Now, before your keyboards start smoking I want to assure you that I agree with Dr. Master’s observations--although not his conclusions--and admire his acumen, maturity in the faith, and zeal for soundness of doctrine. The church desperately needs more men like him. And the church desperately needs men with the gift of discernment like Dr. Masters whom God uses to challenge error in doctrine and conduct.... Similarly, I can rejoice that Calvinism is being preached albeit with impure motives, loud music blaring between messages, and the preacher wearing a Jesus T-shirt. Dear brother, It would appear that you have not understood Dr. Master's "maturity in the faith", nor his "gift of discernment". Why? Because he is CONSISTENT in his conclusion(s) with that which Scripture teaches. Okay, what am I referring to? Scripture in myriad places teaches that right doctrine MUST lead and exhibit itself in a transformed life; a life that is evidenced in good works. Good works are synonymous with godliness and holiness, forsaking sin and a conformity to the law of God. Notice this correlation in Paul's statements found in Eph 4:20-24 and Col 3:8-10: Ephesians 4:20-24 (KJV) "But ye have not so learned Christ; If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts; And be renewed in the spirit of your mind; And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness." and...
Colossians 3:8-10 (KJV) "But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds; And have put on the new [man], which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:" There is a clear pattern to be seen in Paul's pastoral letters, e.g., Galatians and Ephesians, as well as elsewhere in his letters and in those of the other apostles: Doctrine > Application (transformation of life). In other words, right doctrine MUST lead to a change in behavior. For example, if you believe xxxx then you will live like xxxx. The entire chapter of Romans 6 is a perfect example. After expounding at length on the doctrine of justification by faith alone, Paul applies that doctrinal truth by saying that there will follow a life of holiness. James also says the same thing succinctly in his epistle 2:19 and 26: James 2:19 (KJV) "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."
2:26 "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." The Reformers were sorely criticized for their tenacious holding to the doctrine of Sola Fide; a man is justified by faith alone. But the criticism was in error because they did not mean that this faith stood alone apart from works. Thus it was further clarified as, "Man is justified by faith alone but not by a faith that is alone!" So, Dr. Masters is simply being biblical correct in seeing a bifurcation, an inconsistency with what is being taught (doctrine) and the manner, method and expression in that teaching. It's a half-truth that is being promoted. Calvinism is far more than the "Five Points". It is a full-orbed cosmology; world and life view. Calvinism transforms a persons life when embraced with BOTH the head and the heart. ALL things are transformed by biblical doctrine. Did not Paul counsel Timothy, his young protégé: 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (KJV) "All scripture (doctrinal truth) [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works." Thus such things as worship are regulated by Scripture. One's view of God will evidence itself in how one approaches God, how one worships God, how one speaks of God, etc. Let's take one specific example to show how this "neo-Calvinism" violates the very essence of true doctrine. Wearing a "Jesus t-shirt" is in direct violation of both the Second Commandment and the Third Commandment. Contemporary worship/music is in direct violation to the command to flee worldliness and its appeal to the base senses of fallen man. Finally, I'll let Jesus have the last word, Matthew 7:21-24 (ASV) "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock:"
Luke 6:44-47 (ASV) "For each tree is known by its own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes. The good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and the evil [man] out of the evil [treasure] bringeth forth that which is evil: for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh. And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Every one that cometh unto me, and heareth my words, and doeth them, I will show you to whom he is like:" In His grace,
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