Originally Posted by Pilgrim
Originally Posted by Tom
When I look at the teaching that I see by one who many consider a "New Calvinist" by the name of Mark Dever; I see anything but antinomianism. I am not saying that he agrees with every facet of the Reformed faith. However, I think he would be in agreement with almost everything written in the LBCF.
At least from what I have read from his site and a book I read of his.

Personally, I am not sure why he is considered a “New Calvinist”. scratch1
Tom, you seem to have this penchant for putting forth and defending Mark Dever in regard to the "New Calvinism". shrug I'm not privy to whether some have lumped him in with the movement or not. But be that as it may, even IF he has been mentioned as being one of those teaching the "New Calvinism", IF he was an exception, he would be just that... an EXCEPTION, which certainly doesn't negate the many criticism of the movement, which includes, for example, a rejection of the Regulative Principle of Worship, which is based upon the first two of the Ten Commandments. Many also reject the Fourth Commandment, i.e., they are anti-Sabbatarian. And some are blatantly guilty of violating the Second and Third Commandments, e.g., the flippant wearing of Jesus t-shirts, telling crude jokes, using profane language, ad nauseam while claiming to be a follower of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Now, whether Mark Dever believes and/or practices any of the above, which is but a short list of sins and errors I'll leave it to you to find out. Whether he turns a blind eye to these things although personally opposing them, again I do not know, but I'll leave it to you to find out. Whether he cooperates with such people and participates in their gatherings, which in my mind shows he has little or no convictions about such things, I am not privy, but I'll leave that to you to find out. The point is, however, that Mark Dever the "New Calvinism" does not make or break. grin

The HISTORIC Reformed Confessions and Catechisms define what Calvinism, the Reformed Faith is and how it is to be practiced. That many are trying to "stretch" their meaning and obviscate the common practice/application of them which has been done for centuries is undeniable. But in so doing, they have no warrant to call themselves "Calvinists". nono
As I previously said, I have mixed feeling about the so called "New Calvinism"; basically for the reasons that you talked about.
It is just that I have looked into the practice and beliefs of Mark Dever and found for the most part he is quite solid.

If that is defending Mark Dever, then I am guilty as charged, but then again most Reformed Baptists I know, would be guilty as charged also.
Come to think about it, Reformed Baptists are not the only ones who enjoy the ministry of Mark Dever and this includes people like RC Sproul.

Tom