Originally Posted by Reformation Monk
Originally Posted by Newman
That is partially true. It's true that this is certainly a conciliar teaching, and very much a part of the post-conciliar Church. Its false though

False?
"Its false though, to imagine that this all began with V2." If you didn't mean to imply that this all began with V2, then I gladly stand corrected. Is that not what you meant to imply?

Originally Posted by RM
Hmm.... seems to me that Pius X and the Current Magisterium says exactly what I stated in my above comments.
If by that you mean that they speak the same way, more or less, I agree.


Originally Posted by RM
Plus this just affirms my point of works righteousness.

"sincerely seeking God's truth and doing Gods will as best as a person can."

Nowhere in there does it mention having faith in Christ.
A sincere question. We know that babies and young children cannot, before a certain age or ability, have faith in Christ. If they happen to die before receiving this capability of knowledge, can they be saved?

Last edited by Newman; Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:35 PM.