Originally Posted by John_C
Originally Posted by Jobeluan65
John,

I have a difficult time believing that a genuine Christian "thinks that the Bible is not completely trustworthy and written by man."

Okay, let's change gears. There are plenty of professing Christians who take the view that portions of Scripture is cultural related - meaning for the time it was written. Let's forget them on this. Now, how about those who profess the truthfulness of the Bible, but sees the Bible as allowing women pastors, at least elders. Is it just a disconnect, or does the truthfulness of the Bible allows a person to take those types of positions?

Oh boy, could I ever be long winded about that one.

I had my share of debates with an old former pastor about that one and though he was orthodox on almost all other topics, he sure was off on this one. Though, I would say he was a little less clear on whether Scripture allowed women elders, but very clear that he believed that the office of deacon was for both men and women.
This kind of reasoning, however, seeped into egalitarianism in both the home and the Church. With Eph.5:21 being a favorite verse of his, which in his view seemed to trump the verses that follow.
Was/is he truly regenerate? I would like to think so, but these kinds of things certainly have a bad effect on congregations.
I better stop now.

Tom