Originally Posted by Tom
Originally Posted by Pilgrim
Since God does not change, i.e., neither in His dealings with men nor and especially in His nature/essense, then it cannot be postulated that the Son was at one time not subordinate to the Father. EVERYTHING about God exists eternally, including His decrees.

Pilgrim
Just to let you know, some of my earlier confusion stems from your quote above.
It appears (at least to me) like you were saying that Christ's subordination to the Father, was ontological, not just functional.
Tom
nope There is no mention of 'ontological' in the quote. The statement was meant to be UNIVERSAL in scope. The issue of ontological vs. functional re: subordination wasn't brought up. So, as far as I'm concerned, the statement is accurate albeit some, such as yourself, might be confused if that is all one read. grin

So, once again... Subordination of the Son to the Father does not apply to God's essense (ontological Trinity). The subordination of the Son to the Father is strictly functional which exists eternally since God is not subject to time.

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