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I realized that, but are there any traditional liberals in Canada that are left to combat the Trudeau liberals. I don't see any traditional liberals lefti n the USA, or if there are any, they keep quiet as they would be crushed by the progressive woke machine. Me thinks there may be some traditional Liberals today in various places, i.e., those who personally would secretly align themselves with the "values" of those once held in years past. HOWEVER, just look how nearly EVERY SINGLE Democrat has voted both in the House and Senate and the various Committees on EVERY issue and again nearly EVERY ONE has voted pure radical left against conservative issues/values. They are for the most part in lock-step with what the Deep State Democrats tell them tell them to do. For whatever reason, their 'secret' views are nothing more than opinions and cannot be justified as convictions, which I'm confident you understand the difference between the two terms.  And, I will also unabashedly say that the "Deep State" includes many Republicans as well who are disgusting lemmings and have no love for the fundamentals of the Constitution which is the basis for the Democratic REPUBLIC upon which the United States was formed. The current political class is nothing less than a "Den of Vipers" who cannot speak truth if their life depended upon it. They are habitual liars, thieves, murderers and haters of God who have only their own personal interests as their goal in life. God, Family and Country no longer has a place in their thinking. I see little hope for the future of the United States short of divine intervention. Even the modern 'church' shows similar corruption within its ranks and members. The "Old Paths" are denigrated, scoffed at and rejected. We are surely moving along to destruction as prophesied as such things are indicative of the "Last Days" which will grow increasingly worse throughout the world. There is often heard God's name mentioned but the 'god' believed by most is most always not the Sovereign God of Scripture. The true Gospel is unrecognizable. Holiness and righteousness are rarely uttered never mind the affection of the heart which has been reborn by the saving work of the Spirit of Truth. Worship can now be recognized as only blasphemous when compared to the biblical teaching. And even the Bible itself is anything but the divinely inspired, inerrant, infallible Word of God written. But to return to your original statement, it isn't just that those in political office may be less than progressive privately, the core problem is the minds and hearts of those who voted those corrupt politicians into office. Woke politicians are the expression of the masses themselves. Unless the heart of the nation is turned, nothing will change other than get progressively worse. 
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