Oh I'm inclined to say that Pilgrim would consider jeans, t-shirt (even if was tucked in), tennis shoes (or are they called athletic shoes now? Showing my age), and a leather jacket would qualify. [Linked Image] 'Course I consider slacks and a polo shirt to be kind of dressed up. [Linked Image] Yet my father would call me a heathen of the first water if I didn't appear in a suit and tie in church, anything short of that was casual. [Linked Image]